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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject:
Urijah is definitely a warrior. Adapting to that broken hand was tough, but he handled it well and kept himself in the fight. It's too bad that we didn't get to see the fight we could have, but this was still a very good match.
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject:
Very entertaining fight. Faber has the heart of a warrior, and I can't think of anyone else who could even last 5 rounds with a broken hand against Brown.
That being said, Brown is the real deal. He has striking skills, takedown and ground skills. He might not be the fastest, or necessarily the best in any of those categories, but his combination of skills is incredible. Plus, he's hella strong for his weight class.
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject:
Wow, hats off to Faber for even fighting the champ with a broken hand. I don't know what he'll do now, though. He reminds me of Rich Franklin or Tito now, a great fighter and great (former) champion now without a weight class. He lost to Brown twice now, so at the point he might have to bump up or down to challenge in another division. Or take another stab at Brown by going through another slew of contenders.
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject:
I was going to skip out on this Sat's show from Germany, but going through the main card just now it's looking to be a good night of fights. Actually, I can't remember the last time there was an event so dominated by strikers. Just about everyone on the main card has stand-up and banging as their preferred fighting style. I'm going to expect a few KO's and TKO's.
Rich Franklin Vs. Wanderlei Silva - Wanderlei, KO. But where does he go from here?
Cheick Kongo Vs. Cain Velasquez - I don't know much about Velasquez, but frankly I've never been too impressed with Kongo. Toss up.
Mike Swick Vs. Ben Saunders - Ben Saunders, really?! The TUF guy who cried because one of the guys on his team wouldn't wake him up? Who has he really beaten? Swick, KO or TKO, I don't see it being close.
Marcus Davis Vs. Dan Hardy - Gotta say I do like the build-up to this, and although I'd like to see Hardy win, I doubt he can beat the Irish Hand Grenade.
Spencer Fisher Vs. Caol Uno - I do not understand the love for Caol Uno. I hear about him from time to time and just can't get why he's considered a big deal. Fisher wins.
Mirko Cro Cop Vs. Mostapha Al Turk - anyone remember the boxing event of the year in '94 or '95, with Mike Tyson getting out of jail to fight some shlub from around Boston? That is wha this fight is looking like, Cro Cop's return to the UFC, near his own country. I see him winning, KO.
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject:
Was cleaning out my folders tonight, found this link on one've my fav athletes: Roy Jones Jr.
Wasn't he supposed to fight Anderson Silva by now?
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject:
Brown is an absolute tank. He's like Hughes in his prime except with solid, powerful striking. Just smothering when he's on top. Very impressed, but I didn't expect it to turn out any different. Brown vs Aldo by the end of the year, please. Speaking of, Aldo is such a phenom. 22 years old, explosive, a fucking Jiu-Jitsu black belt and world champion which he NEVER HAS TO USE cause he's too busy lighting people up. He's the WEC's future. Badass joker-scar, too. Called him a future champ almost two years ago and my opinion sure hasn't changed.
Faber should bump up to 155 and try the waters there. I definitely think he's more talented than Varner, but Cerrone might give him problems on size alone.
UFC 99 is a pretty tits card. Unless Wandy turns it into a chute box sparring session, Franklin will pick him apart easily. If Wandy pulls out a dub, there's a ton of places for him to go at middleweight. Not sure if I understand the question.
Both Kongo and Velasquez are very impressive fighters. Cain because he brings a killer instinct to the HW division, and Kongo because he's a freak of nature with some nasty ground n' pound. It should be a slobberknocker.
Ben Saunders was a bit of a chode on the show, but I've got a feeling you haven't seen too much of him. For starters, he's a monster. I'd say him and Anthony Johnson are probably the two biggest welterweights in the UFC. Secondly, he gave Brandon Wolff the beating of a lifetime and turned his forehead into one of the nastiest hematoma's I've ever seen. Granted Wolff is nothing special, and you're right in that he hasn't beaten any names, but there's no way the fight is 'Swick, not even close.' I'd say he's the safest underdog bet on the entire card.
Personally, I don't really care who wins in the Davis/Hardy fight. I think Davis takes it, but meh. Neither guy is particularly special. This should please the 'JUST BLEED!!' mma fans.
I didn't know Uno was considered a big deal. He's a veteran, though, and that makes him important. He's not the winning est guy around, but he's more or less been facing top competition his whole career. He's got around 40 MMA fights (maybe a couple less, can't remember atm) with wins, losses and draws that include Penn, Sakurai, Franca, Aoki, Kawajiri, Hansen, Yamamoto, Ishida and probably a few others that I've forgotten. He's well rounded, and presents a problem to any fighter regardless of the outcome. Slippery little bastard, too.
As much as I love Cro-Cop, and despite how badly he needs a win (MMA needs it, too) I'll go ahead and say Turk is probably the 2nd best underdog bet on the card. Turk sort of sucks, but the 2006 Cro-Cop is no more.
That is an awesome Roy Jones video, btw. Thanks. He really was something special.
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Rob Prentes Joined: Feb 24, 2009 Posts: 552 Threads: 13
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject:
What's left for Wandy? Fighting at a catchweight is a good enough reason to not take him out back Liddell-style; he can still do some damage at MW.
Was talking with a bud last night, he raised a good point: no matter how Kimbo does on the show he'll still be fighting in the UFC afterwards. He's too much money. So a good fight for him? Houston Alexander.
I haven't really watched a lot of WEC and don't know much about their fighters, but I'm impressed with Miguel Torres. He's in my top five p4p fighters in the world. (along with Fedor at #1, Anderson Silva, GSP and Machida.) In all seriousness I can't see how anyone else could crack the five.
Cro-Cop had one fight, now he's out of the UFC again. Dana's pissed, Cro Cop had a verbal agreement to a 3-fight deal. I heard his victory was clouded in an eye-poking controversy.
Mike Swick wants Matt Hughes next. I'd like to see that happen.
Just when Kongo is on the verge of a title shot, he loses. Happened with Heath Herring, it's happened again last night. My bet would be if Shane Carwin wins his next fight, give him a shot at Mir or Lesnar.
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject:
Big news for MMA: Anderson Silva AND Lyoto Machida are up for ESPY 2009 awards for best fighter, against boxers Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley. I think the only reason GSP wasn't included is because of "greasegate," which is too bad.
http://promo.espn.go.com/es...pys2009/#/bestof/
I voted for Machida. (sorry, am a mark for that guy.) Couldn't go for Silva because of his last two performances.
It's baby steps of course, but again shows the growth of this sport and their current show of legitimacy as a new sport.
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:48 am Post subject:
so why aren't we talking about SAT yet?
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject:
Betterdayz wrote:
so why aren't we talking about SAT yet?
This thread's going to explode later on this week.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject:
GSP is going to lose this weekend.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject:
Betterdayz wrote:
GSP is going to lose this weekend.
Wanna make things interesting? ($)
Wait, is that still legal? Nevermind.
Alves is a pit bull, the guy's a beast and right now doesn't show any weakness. I thought Penn (II) was his strongest test, but right now Thiago seems on another league.
It's gonna be a brilliant fight, but I can't bet against GSP.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject:
By the way, latest news in the sport: Chuck Liddell and Mask from TapOut are the newest inductees to UFC's Hall of Fame. Quite an honor considering their company is a few of the elites from MMA (five total: Royce Gracie, Randy Couture, Shamrock, Mark Coleman and Dan Severn).
I gotta ask though, what does everyone think of Mask being inducted? It kinda seems odd, I understand the sentiment but I'm not sure they should put non-fighters in. He just seems out of place given the quality of fighters in the HoF.
UFC wrote:
Liddell and Mask are the two newest inductees into the UFC Hall of Fame
By Thomas Gerbasi
Jul-6-2009
One was perhaps the greatest light heavyweight of all-time, a feared striker who ruled the 205-pound weight class with an iron right hand and in doing so became mixed martial arts’ first crossover superstar.
The other was his close friend, a visionary who helped create a brand that is now synonymous with the sport, but who did it not with a ruthless business sense, but with an infectious enthusiasm and an attitude that could light up a room.
On Friday, July 10th, the UFC Hall of Fame inducts its two newest members, former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell and TapouT co-founder Charles “Mask” Lewis.
“I appreciate this gesture and I’m glad that people appreciate what I do and that they think that I deserve this, but I’m just one of the guys that fight out there,” said Liddell, who admitted that this crowning moment of his storied career does come with some bittersweet feelings due to the fact that he won’t be able to share it with his longtime friend Lewis, who was tragically killed in an automobile accident in March. “It’s gonna be a little rough being that it’s Charles and me, but for us to go in together, I wouldn’t have it any other way.”
The official UFC Hall of Fame ceremony will take place at the UFC Fan Expo on Friday, July 10th at 6:30pm. Liddell and Lewis join Royce Gracie, Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn, Randy Couture, and Mark Coleman in the UFC Hall of Fame.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject:
Rob Prentes wrote:
Betterdayz wrote:
GSP is going to lose this weekend.
Wanna make things interesting? ($)
Wait, is that still legal? Nevermind.
Alves is a pit bull, the guy's a beast and right now doesn't show any weakness. I thought Penn (II) was his strongest test, but right now Thiago seems on another league.
It's gonna be a brilliant fight, but I can't bet against GSP.
Alves in no more then two rounds will knock the greaseball out.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject:
Screw it, arguably the biggest card in mma history this Sat, can't wait. So excited! For predictions:
Main card
Heavyweight Championship unification bout: Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
Welterweight Championship bout: Georges St-Pierre vs. Thiago Alves
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Middleweight bout: Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Middleweight bout: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher
Preliminary card
Light Heavyweight bout: Mark Coleman vs. Stephan Bonnar
Lightweight bout: Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller
Light Heavyweight bout: Jon Jones vs. Jake O'Brien
Welterweight bout: Dong Hyun Kim vs. TJ Grant
Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor
Lightweight bout: Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty
Mir/Lesnar -- Mir seems like a giant prick, but I don't really like Lesnar, either. Still, can't wait for this rematch! The first bout was all of 90 seconds and it was an incredible moment. I have Mir winning by submission, 2nd round.
GSP/Alves -- Alves is going to be tough, and this is going to be brutal, but if GSP wins he'll move up into the p4p rankings for sure. To cement his legacy he needs to keep successfully defending and have a Hughes-like championship reign. So, GSP wins, decision.
Henderson/Bisping -- does this feel like a mismatch to anyone else? I can't see how Bisping could win, at all. Hendo, by 2nd round tko/stoppage.
Fitch/Thiago -- going with Fitch, but this on paper looks like another showstealing fight.
Akiyama/Belcher -- Akiyama is susposed to be this amazing fighter coming to the UFC from Japan, has a nice record and a lot of buzzing going in. I don't know much about Belcher. I'll give a swag and say Akiyama, curious to see how he does.
Coleman/Bonnar -- I can't wait for this, because Bonnar's going to take the fight to Coleman and test the HOFer to see if he still has it. I'm going Bonnar, decision. Interesting to see how much Coleman has left in him.
Danzig/Miller -- Danzig's been on a long losing streak, they might cut him loose if he doesn't win this. (not sure about this fight, but I'll say Danzig just because I like him )
Wow, Jon Jones is fighting on this card?!?! The guy's a beast himself, I hope they air his fight if they have enough time.
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Rob Prentes Joined: Feb 24, 2009 Posts: 552 Threads: 13
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject:
Betterdayz wrote:
Rob Prentes wrote:
Betterdayz wrote:
GSP is going to lose this weekend.
Wanna make things interesting? ($)
Wait, is that still legal? Nevermind.
Alves is a pit bull, the guy's a beast and right now doesn't show any weakness. I thought Penn (II) was his strongest test, but right now Thiago seems on another league.
It's gonna be a brilliant fight, but I can't bet against GSP.
Alves in no more then two rounds will knock the greaseball out.
He's going around saying he'll knock GSP out, too, that that's how he'll win. Still, since when* have we ever seen GSP flat-out KO'ed or TKO'ed?
*besides the Serra fight.
Screw it, I'm changing my prediction: GSP by KO.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject:
Lastly, for tonight... just my p-f-p rankings:
1. Fedor. Is it really arguable at this point who the best is?
2. Anderson Silva. Despite his last couple fights he's still the man to beat in the UFC. I'm wondering if Forrest has what it takes.
3. GSP. He's just phenominal, and a win over Alves would cement his spot.
4. Lyoto Machida. I think it's just a matter of flushing out the division and beating the best LHW's at this point.
5. Miguel Torres. This guy's an animal as bantamweight champion in the WEC, looking unbeatable with a 37-1 record.
6. Rampage Jackson. He's just been on a roll lately since dropping the title to Forrest by decision (which itself was debatable whether he should've won). It's interesting him choosing a fight with Rashad over a title shot against Machida (is he ducking Machida? or just wants the TUF exposure?).
7. Mike Brown. WEC featherweight champ with a fine record and coming off a recent win against Urijah Faber.
8. Frank Mir. Just for what he did to Big Nog, my favorite fighter.
9. Thiago Alves. It's scary what he can do. Bad bad man. Think about this: if Alves does beat GSP and wins the title, 3 of the 5 UFC champions will (for the first time in company history) be from Brazil.
10. BJ Penn. I'll give him this not for the 4-round asswhoopin' he got from GSP but because he had the heart to bump up (he even bumps to HW on occasion!) and how he pretty much cleared out the lightweight division with brutal one-sided victories over Pulver, Stevenson and Sherk.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject:
I cant watch the 100 greatest fights.
I'm catching it on UFC.com, though; they have good write-ups on it.
On espn.com/mma there's a really awesome ongoing article on the UFC's 100 Most Memorable fights, which is pretty cool because I'm reading about a lot of fights I never even knew about. Like, who is Frank Trigg? And it's great for bringing out a lot of the earlier fights, too.
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject:
Hey all, started an MMA group at RT if anyone posts there. (signed up recently.)
I'm looking at the Vegas odds, Hendo's the easy favorite, it's like all he has to do is show up. I'd eat a shoe if Bisping pulls the Serra-ish upset.
Frank/Brock's going to be exciting, I'll be like standing in front of the tv when this happens, heart pounding. Most of all I want to see what their gameplan is. Will Brock keep things standing and go for the hit to rock Mir or KO him? Will he be so quick to go for the takedown and take the fight to the ground? Will Mir's stand-up be a factor? Hell: even could Mir KO or TKO Brock???
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:20 am Post subject:
Oh, just found this bit of trivia: if GSP wins tonight, he'll tie Randy Couture for the fourth most wins in UFC history. (dunno who those top three are, but I think two of them are Chuck and Matt Hughes.)
I never knew Forrest Griffin/Stephan Bonnar was that important to the company's survival.
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:07 am Post subject:
Um, Bisping winning is absolutely 100% nothing like a Serra upset. He probably will. Hendo's almost 39. He's fought heavyweights, and has been in some wars. Bisping can take this by decision very easily if he wants to. He's got the height, weight, strength, reach, striking and speed advantage. Now, do I want him to win? Fuck no, I think he's a d-bag, but this isn't a mis match by any means. In Hendo's favor he's never been KO'ed, but as long as Bisping avoids takedowns he can point this one out super easily. I'm hoping Hendo GNP's him out, but I don't see it happening.
GSP/Alves isn't going to a decision. Not at all. I've got GSP, though. Fitch tooled Alves on the ground in their fight, and while Alves has come a long way since then, so has GSP.
On paper, Mir shouldn't have any issues in the main event. He looked the best he ever has at the weigh in, it's obvious he's taking this fight seriously. Mirs standup has improved ten fold. Lesnars too green, has those stupid 1 inch hammerfists and no finishing ability unless he lands a wild punch. I want Mir to either tap him out, or I want Brock to totally run through Mir and finish him in a spectacular fashion to show us something.
Fitch should steamroll Paulo. He'll have the motivation after the horrible stoppage given to Kos during that fight. If anything, this one is the only 'no brainer' on the card, imo.
And finally, Sexyama has the skillset (Judo black belt, KO power) to wreck Belcher, but first time octagon jitters are a real phenomenon.
Also, it's too bad Bones Jones's fight isn't going to be televised. That's some bullshit.
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:21 am Post subject:
I'll leave it at this: which strong contenders has Bisping ever beaten?
Damn, second time I've heard him as Sexyama. Is that what they called him in Japan? ***
I know, about Jones, I so want to see that fight. He's so unique and exhilarating a fighter, especially after his Bonnar fight. I'd love to see this aired tonight, maybe even another spinning elbow. That was sick!
I wouldn't mind seeing the Coleman/Bonnar fight aired, either, and it might if it's a round or two. It'd be great for Coleman with all he's done for the company to be on this show.
So excited about tonight.
Oh yeah, did you guys see in the countdown show Brock hitting a wall, and a door closeby suddenly falls from that? Looks staged, like some pro wrestling shit.
Those 2 UFC ring girls looked like they want some SEXYAMA
this is truly a glorious day in the history of sexyness.
Holy ****, I blacked out when Sexyama took off his shirt... did he make weight?
Sexyama is pissed because alan the no talent belcher has a tattoo of Kim Jŏng-Il
Sexyama FTW
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:28 am Post subject:
This is so awesome: Time magazine's got a spread on Fedor!!! It's a great article, definitely worth reading. Just makes me think that much more of Fedor. And how Dana can be a clown sometimes: "At a UFC-fight press conference in April, White said, "Fedor is not the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world ... Fedor is at a buffet somewhere in Russia.""
TIME wrote:
Ultimate Fighting's Cold War Gets Hotter
By Sean Gregory and James Osborne Friday, Jul. 10, 2009
Imagine a pro quarterback with Peyton Manning's talent playing up in the Canadian Football League instead of the NFL. Or picture Tiger Woods shunning the PGA and all the major championships to star in the second-string Nationwide Tour. It may sound ridiculous, but the fast-growing, wildly popular sport of mixed martial arts (MMA) is grappling with such an unthinkable, uncomfortable scenario.
And it couldn't come at a worse time. Just as the sport's premier league, the Ultimate Fighting Championship, prepares to stage its milestone UFC 100 event in Las Vegas this Saturday — which is expected to attract more than 1 million pay-per-view purchases — the top fighter in the world has no plans to participate. Instead of slugging it out in Sin City, Fedor Emelianenko, 32, will be training in a small Russian mining town 385 miles south of Moscow, preparing for an Aug. 1 pay-per-view fight in Anaheim, Calif., against former UFC champion Josh Barnett. That fight is being co-promoted by M-1 Global, an Amsterdam-based organization in which Fedor has an ownership stake, and Affliction Entertainment, an upstart UFC challenger whose financial backers include Donald Trump and Mark Cuban (Cuban's cable network, HDNet, televises Affliction fights). Why isn't Fedor fighting for the more established brand? "The UFC wants his mind, his soul, his body," says Joost Raimond, chief operating officer for M-1 Global.
(See pictures of women's ultimate fighting.)
A former member of the Russian army who possesses an assassin's glare and a face-denting right jab, Emelianenko, the top-ranked heavyweight in the world, is so good he is known simply as "Fedor," according to the World Alliance of Mixed Martial Arts. He has won 30 fights in his career and lost just one, a controversial referee's decision in Japan nine years ago. Fedor has already beaten five former UFC champions, two of them twice. He has finished four of them off in the first round.
"He's the best," says Freddie Roach, a famed fight trainer who has worked with boxing greats Mike Tyson, Oscar de la Hoya, Manny Pacquiao and Fedor's last opponent, Andrei Arlovski, whom Fedor knocked out in three minutes in January. "He's so calm. He sees things happening. If you make a mistake, he'll knock you out. That's the mark of a great fighter."
1:28-:32 especially. 
For predictions:
The guy's a beast himself, I hope they air his fight if they have enough time.
It's a great article, definitely worth reading. Just makes me think that much more of Fedor. And how Dana can be a clown sometimes: 