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Which is your favorite?
Cioppino
11%
 11%  [ 1 ]
Bouillabaisse
22%
 22%  [ 2 ]
I like fishsticks
11%
 11%  [ 1 ]
screw seafood, I like boobs
55%
 55%  [ 5 ]
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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Cioppino vs. Bouillabaisse - fight to the DEATH! Reply with quote

Cioppino:







Bouillabaisse:







Both are seafood stews that are absolutely divine.

Cioppino is an American dish that originated from San Francisco by Italian immigrants.
Bouillabaisse is French Provencal (and coastal).

More technical differences:

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Cioppino is similar to bouillabaisse, a French seafood stew, although it does not usually include saffron, a vital ingredient of bouillabaisse.
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The primary difference between cioppino and bouillabaisse is that cioppino has a true tomato base, while bouillabaisse has a "white" base with saffron and a few tomatoes thrown in for good measure.

Bouillabaisse can't truly be made outside of Provence due to the inclusion of scorpion fish, which are difficult to find elsewhere. Cioppino, on the other hand, is much more democratic. As long as its fresh and comes from the sea, you'll find it in some cioppino recipe or another.

The one unifying factor in the dizzying array of cioppino recipes (aside from the ubiquitous tomato base) is the inclusion of firm-fleshed white fish, such as halibut or sea bass. The fish needs to be meaty and dense to stand up to the rich broth.

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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gotta go with cioppino. It's what I got to know first and I love tomato based soups. (Especially creamy tomato basil, mmm.)
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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had New Orleans-style bouillabaisse and loved it, but never the traditional French preparation. I can't say. Cioppino is awesome.
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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha! lols

There are probably more than a 1000 recipes for bouillabaise out there, and none of them might be authentic. That said, I dislike tomatoes, so Bouillabaise for the win, dog! Cool

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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isabelle M wrote:
There are probably more than a 1000 recipes for bouillabaise out there, and none of them might be authentic.

There are even more recipes for cioppino, and it is acknowledged none of them are authentic since the dish's exact origin is unknown. Nevertheless the differences between the two are clear.
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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be that as it may, since I am in no position to try cioppino any time soon due to my current location, I'm willing to conceide on that point. While still giving my vote to bouillabaise. Which, if I hadn't stated that strongly enough earlier, I LOVE! Cool

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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Boobs as well, though. So for a brief while, my vote was split...

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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked The Roommate's opinion:

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Seriously, bouillabaise is the poster-child for improv-cooking anyway. And Cio-whatever seems to be the bastard child of bouillabaise. Who the Fuck cares as long as it tastes good? And since it's mostly seafood, mostly... My vote goes to whichever fills my tummy up the first.


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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha. Tell an Italian (or an Italian-American) that a prized dish is the bastard child of (or in any way related to) a French classic, and it's always fun to witness the reaction.
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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isabelle M wrote:
Be that as it may, since I am in no position to try cioppino any time soon due to my current location...

OH YES YOU IS! Try "Zuppa di Pesce," it's the same thing. It's what cioppino is known as back in Italy.
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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a born and raised Midwest gal, I've never had much exposure to quality fish dishes. And I can't stand fishsticks. So I voted for Waldorf and Statler.

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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to go with fishsticks.
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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gotta thread cap and say that since I dislike seafood (save for the very, very occasional shrimp), I'm gonna go with French Onion. Yummy yummy.

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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jennigirl wrote:
I gotta thread cap and say that since I dislike seafood (save for the very, very occasional shrimp), I'm gonna go with French Onion. Yummy yummy.

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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vote for the Ta-Tas. All the cool kids are doing it.


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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't go wrong with any good seafood stew.
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POSTPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

parihuela ftw

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POSTPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're going to make me choose between seafood and boobs? I guess I'll take whichever has less mercury. As for cioppino vs. bouillabaisse... I've only had cioppino so I'll have to go with that. I reserve the right to change my vote if and when I ever try bouillabaisse, though.

Admittedly it's not exactly a stew, but one of my favorite seafood dishes would be seafood paella. My friend's wife makes it in a way that there's so much "broth"-type juice in it that it almost resembles a stew. Delish dish.


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POSTPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acapelli wrote:
parihuela ftw


Looks delicious.
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POSTPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never had either, but I love love seafood. So I voted for boobs

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POSTPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both look kinda nasty to me. I'll go with Fish tacos... with a side of boob.

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POSTPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

astor wrote:
Try "Zuppa di Pesce," it's the same thing. It's what cioppino is known as back in Italy.


"Fish Soup"? lols No wonder you guys keep the original names, you can charge more for it in restaurants. Very Happy

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POSTPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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POSTPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eärendil The Mariner wrote:
"Fish Soup"? lols No wonder you guys keep the original names, you can charge more for it in restaurants. Very Happy

I'm thinking it would be profoundly disrespectful to just change names of everything to English. As for the idea that it's some foppish pretentious thing, cioppino was invented by poor people, as were the origins of most throw-everything-in-the-pot dishes. It's still cheap - something like $5 in the freezer section at Trader Joe's. (Saffron is really the only reason bouillabaisse isn't cheap, as it's more expensive than cocaine.)
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